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2025-03-05
Santiago Santos: DePIN is the Frontier, Why It’s Earlier than Ever for Crypto, Building the First Crypto PE Fund
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Connor and Mahesh welcome Santiago Santos, a prominent figure in the crypto space and co-host of the popular Empire podcast. Santiago shares his vision for the future of private equity and crypto, highlighting the transformative potential of open-source systems and the rapid movement of capital in the crypto world. He discusses his approach to leveraging crypto to drive value in private equity portfolios and emphasizes the importance of integrating stablecoins with decentralized infrastructure networks (DePIN) to accelerate technology adoption. Additionally, he explores the readiness of the tech industry to support large-scale crypto initiatives and stresses the need for the industry to aim higher. 

Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction 
01:25 - Santiago's Podcast Experience
01:45 - The Need for Crypto Education
04:01 - Architecting Society with Crypto
06:57 - The Beauty of Open Source Systems
07:44 - The Challenges and Opportunities in Crypto
09:56 - Investing with a Broader Perspective
12:51 - Personal Motivation and Meaning in Work
13:36 - The Role of Technology in Daily Life
15:17 - Convincing Others About Crypto's Value
18:30 - The Shift from Investor to Founder
20:34 - Headwinds Facing Traditional Private Equity
24:09 - The Future of Private Equity and Crypto
25:34 - Onboarding Users into the Crypto Space
27:55 - The Vision for Inversion Capital
29:11 - The Role of Helium in the Crypto Ecosystem
36:09 - The Importance of Consumer Experience
37:32 - Assumptions for Inversion's Success
39:57 - The Role of Technology in Crypto's Future
41:03 - Helium Improvement Proposal and Inversion
44:05 - Conclusion and Future Outlook

Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

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