Ethereum L2s are exploding, enterprises are finally paying attention, and DAOs are going through an identity crisis. In this episode, Daria talks with Krzysztof Urbański, blockchain researcher and head of governance & partnerships at L2BEAT, about what’s happening across the Ethereum scaling and governance landscape.

Drawing on 20+ years in IT and deep experience with financial infrastructure, Krzysztof breaks down how Ethereum L2s work, what real security guarantees look like, and why decentralization isn’t a vibe – it’s a risk model.

He explains L2BEAT’s role as an onchain transparency project, how they stay neutral while being delegates in multiple DAOs, and why Ethereum should be the settlement layer for the world’s financial system.