In this conversation, DeFi Dave interviews Rishi, the founder of Movement, a layer two solution on Ethereum. They discuss Rishi's background, the development of Movement, and the applications being built on the platform. Rishi highlights the importance of security in DeFi and the need for a high-throughput virtual machine. The conversation also touches on the challenges of grants and airdrops in the crypto space and the need for a new kind of incentive distribution.

Timeline

00:00 Introduction and Background
02:17 Rishi's Background and Discovery of Move
06:25 Differences Between Aptos Move and Sui Move
09:25 The Security Focus of Move and the Issues with EVM
15:15 Movement as a Layer Two Solution on Ethereum
20:49 Go-to-Market Plan and Building the Movement Ecosystem
22:51 Applications on Movement (Alpha Leak)
27:20 Partnerships and Consumer Apps on Movement
31:44 Product Differentiation in a Saturated Market
35:13 Building Fundamentally New Products and User Experiences
39:12 Challenges and Opportunities in Grants and Airdrops
45:05 Creating Wealth in the Crypto Space: Incentives That Work

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