Internet Explorers

What if anyone could build a crypto app—without writing a single line of code?

In this episode of Internet Explorers, Jess Sloss and Josh Cornelius sit down with Brexton Pham, co-founder of Ohara, to explore how AI is revolutionizing app development and why software is becoming the next form of content.

Brexton lays out his bold vision: a world where non-technical creators generate crypto-native apps in seconds, memecoins replace traditional business models, and attention is the only currency that matters. But if software is free to create, what happens next? Ohara’s answer might change how you think about crypto.

This episode unpacks:
* The No-Code Crypto Future – Why 99% of future apps won’t be built by developers.
* Meme Coins as Monetization – The strongest incentives drive the most engagement. Can meme coins become a sustainable business model?* Rethinking Tokenization – Why most app tokens fail—and what actually works.
* Building on Base – Ohara’s bet on Base and the EVM ecosystem for the next generation of crypto-native apps.
* Software as a Social Experience – What happens when building an app is as easy as making a TikTok?

Other topics explored:
* Are crypto-native app chains a game changer or just another layer of complexity?
* What happens when sports teams, brands, and internet culture go on-chain?
* Are airdrops still a viable strategy, or just exit liquidity for insiders?* An agent-only ecosystem sounds futuristic—but does it actually work?
* You Wouldn't Salt a Monkey…or would you?

Chapters:
0:00 – Intro: The ByBit Hack You Slept Through
3:55 – Meet Brexton Pham & The Ohara Vision
4:56 – Software as Content & The Rise of Non-Technical Creators
9:29 – Attention-Based Monetization: Why Memecoins Are the Future
12:43 – Tokenizing Apps: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
16:36 – Remixing Apps & Forking Without the Drama
21:47 – Why Token Launches Fail & The Zero-Cost App Revolution
25:18 – AI’s Role in Crypto App Generation
27:30 – App Chains: The Dream vs. The Reality
30:50 – Tokenizing Culture: What If the Lakers Launched a Coin?
38:21 – Kaito’s Token Launch & The Airdrop Debate
54:30 – Dream Chain: A VIP Club for AI Agents?
59:56 – You Wouldn't Salt a Monkey

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