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Lior Goldenberg is the founder of Covariance, Co-Owned Growth Studio, and most recently Product Clank. In this episode, we discuss how builders can fund experiments, the evolving venture funding landscape, and how Product Clank is bridging the gap between traders, builders, and users.
(00:07) Introduction & Lior’s Background
(04:41) The Zero-Cost Startup Era & The Future of Venture Funding
(06:26) Product Clank: The Vision for Distributing Ideas & Products
(11:10) Bridging the Gap Between Traders, Builders & Users
(13:17) The Challenge of Distribution & How Product Clank Solves It
(16:46) Reputation & Trust as a New Signal for Startup Success
(21:32) Beyond Distribution: What Builders Will Need Next
(26:42) Mistakes & Lessons Learned in Startup Building
(31:54) The Future of Product Clank & Impact on the Venture Space
(33:56) Alternative Crowdfunding & New Models for Creators
(35:02) Call to Action: Getting Involved in Product Clank
Connect with Lior:
Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/lior
Website: https://www.covariance.network/
Connect with Kris:
Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/thekris
LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/thekrispartner
For sponsorships and collaboration:
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DISCLAIMER: This episode does not constitute financial advice. Digital assets and Web3 experiments carry risks. Always do your own research (DYOR).

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