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Building Ethereum's Connectivity Hub with Polymer Labs
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Peter Kim, Gajesh Naik and Ismael Hishon-Rezaizadeh
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About the episode

We're live again from the studio from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for episode 19 with Peter Kim.

For this episode, we are tackling the fragmentation problem head on with the story of Polymer and their north star of building an onchain experience where different execution environments communicate securely, transparently, and in a way users donโ€™t even need to think about.

As you know, we've been pushing the concept of chain abstraction as a key pillar to move into the internet-like UX era of crypto.

Polymer and Peter share this vision as their love for IBC is inspired by the neutrality and accessibility of TCP/IP. Peter explained how Polymerโ€™s vision goes beyond the typical token bridges that we see today to creating a connectivity hub as an L2 using EigenDA.

Weโ€™ll explore what makes Polymerโ€™s approach different, from their core focus on interoperability standards to their integration with EigenDA for secure, cost-effective state proofing, why they see so many parallels to the internet era and how theyโ€™re applying those lessons to Web3 today.

Let's go.


๐—˜๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—จ๐—ป๐—น๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐˜† ๐—”๐—น๐˜๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐—น๐˜†๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ

๐—”๐—น๐˜๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฟ is an open and decentralized protocol that accelerates the launch of native and restaked rollups as well as AVSs. Our flagship product โ€˜restaked rollupsโ€™ has been an industry disruptor, unlocking the true value of rollups with enhanced security, decentralization, fast finality, and interoperability. AltLayer also recently launched the marketโ€™s first AVS-as-a-Service platform called โ€œWizardโ€- which templatizes AVS tools for convenience, hyper-accelerating their adoption and fast-tracking scalability for Web3. Follow AltLayer's Twitter: https://twitter.com/alt_layer and Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/altlayer

๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐—น๐˜†๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ is the first real-time interoperability solution that combines message passing and state streaming into an infinitely scalable network layer for the upcoming appchain meta. It can scale alongside L2 block times and leverage the security guarantees of connected rollups while offering re-org protection. Check it out here: https://www.polymerlabs.org/


00:45 Intro
03:20 Exploring Polymer's Evolution
06:29 Todayโ€™s Interoperability Landscape
10:49 Polymer's Role in Solving Fragmentation
16:29 Why UX Matters Beyond Todayโ€™s Users
21:27 The Future of Interoperability Standards


Polymer Labs Website: https://www.polymerlabs.org/
Polymer Labs Socials: https://x.com/Polymer_Labs
Peter Kim Socials: https://x.com/0xPeterKim


๐—ช๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต-๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†, ๐—ป๐—ผ๐—ป-๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฑ, ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐˜†๐—ฝ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜†๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ. ๐—ฆ๐˜‚๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐˜‚๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ถ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—บ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜ ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐˜๐˜€ ๐—ฏ๐˜† ๐—ฐ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜† ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ธ๐˜€ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐˜€:

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