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Why Crypto Is Following A Similar Path As Cloud Computing with Polymer
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Bo Du
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About the episode

Welcome to episode 14 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a deeper dive into the interop landscape of crypto with a tight parallel to the internet experience.

Our focus today is on Polymer Labs, for a technical presentation with Bo Du. Polymer is dedicated to making onchain interop as smooth as possible by acting as the "messaging queue" that acts as an interop layer for various rollups. By leveraging EigenLayer's DA, theyโ€™re scaling interop capacity to bring down costs and speed up transactions, enabling them to be a bridging hub for a potential future with thousands of L2s.

The current hurdles of high latency, cost inefficiency, and complex data processing make it tough for blockchains to match the scale of traditional Web2 services. Bo has a very unique perspective on this landscape as he draws many analogies to traditional cloud computing throughout this presentation.

Ultimately, the interoperability puzzle is about creating a modular architecture that can grow as more chains come online. Polymer wants to lean into the growing network effects of L2s, so we can collectively reduce time to market, and build the foundation for many chains to thrive in an interconnected world.

Enjoy.

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๐—”๐—น๐˜๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ฒ๐—ฟ is an open and decentralized protocol that accelerates the launch of native and restaked rollups as well as AVSs. Our flagship product โ€˜restaked rollupsโ€™ has been an industry disruptor, unlocking the true value of rollups with enhanced security, decentralization, fast finality, and interoperability. AltLayer also recently launched the marketโ€™s first AVS-as-a-Service platform called โ€œWizardโ€- which templatizes AVS tools for convenience, hyper-accelerating their adoption and fast-tracking scalability for Web3. Follow AltLayer's Twitter: https://twitter.com/alt_layer and Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/altlayer

๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐—น๐˜†๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ is the first real-time interoperability solution that combines message passing and state streaming into an infinitely scalable network layer for the upcoming appchain meta. It can scale alongside L2 block times and leverage the security guarantees of connected rollups while offering re-org protection. Check it out here: https://www.polymerlabs.org/


00:45 Introduction
02:15 4 Quadrants of App Development
04:50 What is Interop Capacity?
08:03 Scaling Execution and Latency
11:34 Connectivity Modes
14:28 Importance of Data Bandwidth
17:39 Cost Analysis of Onchain Protocols
20:05 Practicality of Building Onchain vs. Cloud
26:38 Understanding Bottlenecks in Cloud
30:54 The Big Problem With Onchain Apps
35:43 How Latency Affects App Performance
39:57 What Are Messaging Queues?
44:16 Integrating EigenLayer For Scale
49:53 The Future of Rollups and Interop

Polymer Labs Website: https://www.polymerlabs.org/
Polymer Labs Socials: https://x.com/Polymer_Labs
Bo Du Socials: https://x.com/0xshake


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