Kevin Kelly has spent 40 years asking one question: what is technology really? He is the founding editor of Wired. His books have shaped how we think about innovation, the future of technology, and what works.

His voice has been present at every major technological shift, from the early internet to AI today.His influence has reached all the way to this podcast. His essays and ideas are often places we return to for deep thought and reflection.

Kevin Kelly is the ultimate curiosity machine, and it was a pleasure to speak with him at length about his ideas, philosophies, and even his jokes.