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27: Mackenzie Burnett - Accounting for America

Mackenzie Burnett (Website, X) is the co-founder and CEO of Ambrook, financial software for independent businesses starting with farms and ranches. We trace her arc from a policy-first upbringing (USDA household, Congressional internships, climate-security research at Stanford) to a building software for rural America. We talk about why Mackenzie loves America and cares about agriculture, the challenges of aligning sustainability with business and government, and pragmatically building resilience. Mackenzie talks about the American Dream and why independent small businesses are the foundation of it in many ways.Then we get into Ambrook’s product philosophy: why “all roads lead to accounting,” how multi-P&Ls and biological inventories make farms deceptively complex, and why understanding bookkeeping and money movement enables better decision making and understanding over the long run for big and small businesses.We also talk through Mackenzie's broad ambition for Ambrook; her growth as a leader; brand, aesthetics, and environment; Ambrook's editorially independent research division, Offrange, and more. Mackenzie is one of the most quietly ambitious and focused people I've met, and yet under her impressive and serious exterior is a life and love for America and its people that is all heart.Special thanks to Josh Kale for his help producing this episode.---Full transcript and all links: https://dialectic.fm/mackenzie-burnett---Timestamps00:01:11 Intro00:02:51: The American Heartland00:05:21: Agriculture, Policy, and Government00:12:29: The Challenges with Prioritizing Climate Risk: "Long Term and Abstract"00:18:04: Pragmatic Environmentalism and Resilience that Drives Business00:21:49: The American Dream00:25:52: The Importance of Independent Small Businesses00:28:58: Entrepreneurship on the Frontier: America's First Entrepreneurs and Ambrook's First Customers -- Farmers00:36:28: Biological Factories: Why Farms are Complex Businesses00:40:41: Why Everything Goes Back to Accounting00:44:30: Why Money Movement Matters00:51:13: Ambrook as a Twenty-Year Container00:57:27: The National Importance of Agriculture01:00:49: The Features of Illegibility01:04:49: Ambrook's Long Term Vision01:10:17: Making the Intractable Tractable (And Doomscrolling Your Company's Slack)01:14:42: De-Risking and Becoming Friends with Anxiety01:17:26: Building Something That Takes on a Life of its Own01:20:07: Ambrook's Culture in Three Words01:21:26: Brand and Storytelling01:26:11: AI Enabling the Middle Class01:30:57: California History and J.G. Boswell01:34:05: Niche Subjects and History and "The Land Where Lemons Grow"01:36:46: Disney's Magic Band01:39:15: Strange Math and Happiness and Sadness in Parallel01:41:31: Aesthetics, Beauty, and Physical Design Systems01:47:31: The Draw to Start ThingsLinks & ReferencesAmerica, the Beautiful - Mackenzie BurnettThe Founder's Letter: Mackenzie Burnett, AmbrookDisposable CamerasA “precariously unprepared” Pentagon? Climate security beliefs and decision-making in the U.S. military (Mackenzie's Thesis)The Land Where Lemons Grow - Helena AttleeDubai Chocolate Made Pistachios Viral, But Are Small Farmers Winning? - Offrangesam altman: “honestly, i feel so bad about the advice i gave while running YC i’ve been thinking about deleting my entire blog”affinity - AvaLunch with the FT: Novak DjokovicAmbrook Series A AnnouncementOffrange (Fka Ambrook Research)AI Could Actually Help Rebuild The Middle Class - David AutorThe King of California - Mark Arax | GoodreadsTulare LakeTweet on The Land Where Lemons GrowMagicBandLeaders in TechInteractJane JacobsFrom plows to platforms: how Stripe is powering modern agricultureDialectic is available on all platforms:Follow ⁠Dialectic on Twitter⁠Follow Dialectic on InstagramJoin the ⁠telegram channel for Dialectic⁠Subscribe to Dialectic on YouTube

Media, Bots, and Mini Apps: Farcaster as a Creative Playground

In this episode of The Optimism Show, Kris Gligoroski is joined by Adrienne and NounishProf, co-creators of GM Farcaster, a flagship onchain media brand, to explore what it really takes to build in public on Web3’s fastest-growing social protocol. Together, they unpack the vision and mechanics behind GM Farcaster’s livestream-first approach, the power of community-driven podcasting, and how custom bots and Farcaster-native mini apps unlock new ways of engaging audiences. This isn’t just a conversation about content—it’s about redefining media itself, using the primitives of onchain coordination, open distribution, and community ownership. They also reflect on Farcaster’s evolution from a dev-centric experiment to a vibrant cultural layer—and how GM Farcaster became a home for real-time storytelling, creator tooling, and public conversation across the Superchain. If you're curious about what’s possible when media meets protocol, this episode is your front-row seat. 🌐 Connect with GM Farcaster Website: gmfarcaster.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GMFarcaster Pods.media: pods.media/gm-farcaster Farcaster: @gmfarcaster Mini App: miniapp.gmfarcaster.com 🧠 Connect with Adrienne & NounishProf on Farcaster @adrienne @nounishprof 🎙️ Connect with Kris Gligoroski Farcaster: @thekris LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/thekrispartner Email (collabs/sponsorships): pod@optimism.show ⚠️ Disclaimer This episode is for informational purposes only. It does not constitute financial advice. Web3, DAOs, always DYOR.

26: Cyan Banister - A Fool’s Dérive

Cyan Banister (Website, X, Substack) is an investor, artist, and co-founder and General Partner of Long Journey Ventures. Previously, Cyan spent four years at Founders Fund and has a legendary angel investing track record alongside her husband, Scott, including early rounds in SpaceX, Uber, and DeepMind.Cyan is as original as they come: she grew up on a Navajo reservation and was homeless by 15, with a series of unlikely serendipitous moments combined with optimism, agency, and love of capitalism taking her to a very different life than the one she grew up with. I focused this conversation not on Cyan's work, but her unique approach to living.We begin with Cyan’s “church”: a weekly visit to see Bobby McFerrin and co. do live, jazz acapella in Berkeley, CA. We discuss how this space ties to presence, openness, and play, and then talk about the tension between novelty and consistency as she continues on her own path toward self-love and mindfulness. She also tells me about her radical approach to accountability and the empowering results of assuming that everything is her fault.One of Cyan's favorite words is the French dérive, or an intentional drift, and it embodies her approach to the world. She moves with childlike wonder, seeking to see things and people from new perspectives and challenging others to react beyond their default settings. She daydreams about the outcomes she wants and has remarkable conviction and faith even when others do not believe her.We wrap with a grab bag representative of Cyan's diverse interests, from filmmaking and performance art to the US Constitution to Bill Murray. Cyan manages to combine randomness and intentionality, naiveté and sober-minded awareness, humility and conviction. I hope you are are as inspired as I am to live more playfully, seriously, and courageously.Full transcript is available at https://dialectic.fm/cyan-banisterTimestamps0:01:23: Intro0:03:45: Cyan's "Church"0:16:21: Stillness, Mindfulness, and Introspection0:28:47: Learning to See in Original Ways0:39:38: People: When the "Light is On," "Collecting Minds," and Conjuring Friends0:46:55: Cultivating Childlike Joy and Refusing to be a Victim0:52:30: Radical Accountability0:56:28: Randomness, Faith, and Experimentation1:06:22: Conviction and Peter Thiel1:12:54: Returning to Seed Investing and Long Journey Ventures1:18:23: Thoughts on Art1:23:42: Performance Art1:26:37: Cyan's Creative Projects1:32:51: Boredom1:36:06: Living Around Elderly People1:42:14: Pete Buttigieg1:45:57: Being a Role Model1:48:26: Young People's Future1:52:46: Scott Banister and Lessons for Her Kids1:55:35: "It Just Doesn't Matter" And Who Pulls the StringsKey LinksCyan - by Kevin Gee and Dan Scott - Cloud ValleyCyan Banister — From Homeless and Broke to Top Angel Investor - Tim FerrissInvesting for a Higher Purpose - Invest like the BestBobby McFerrinUniversity of Texas at Austin 2014 Commencement Address - Admiral William H. McRavenExample of Motion and Bobby's performanceThe Magic Glasses - Frank HarrisMy Life and Loves - Frank HarrisLee JacobsBILL MURRAY TALKS ABOUT THE PAINTING THAT SAVED HIS LIFEThe Diamond Age: Or, a Young Lady's Illustrated Primer - Neal Stephenson | GoodreadsIt Just Doesn't Matter! - Meatballs (1979)‎The Razor's Edge (1984)Bill Murray gives a surprising and meaningful answer you might not expect. (Charlie Rose)Dialectic with Jackson Dahl is available on all podcast platforms.Join the ⁠telegram channel for Dialectic⁠Follow ⁠Dialectic on Twitter⁠Follow Dialectic on InstagramSubscribe to Dialectic on YouTube

The Chopping Block: Tom Lee the New Saylor? DAT Consolidation, Token Wrappers Under Fire

DAT mania meets market reality. Tom Lee becomes the face of ETH as BitMine amasses 1.5% of supply and mNAV premiums start to collapse. We break down Japan’s MetaPlanet tax arbitrage, SharpLink’s buyback tactics, and the coming wave of DAT M&A. Plus: Robinhood launches tokenized stocks in Europe using Arbitrum, the WFE fires a warning shot, and Stylus lets fintech devs go Rust-first onchain. Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, Arbitrum’s AJ Warner (Chief Strategy Officer at Offchain Labs) joins to unpack the rise (and potential fall) of Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs), as Tom Lee emerges as Ethereum’s public face and BitMine amasses 1.5% of ETH. We dive into the collapse of mNAV premiums, Japan’s MetaPlanet tax arbitrage, and the looming consolidation of subscale DATs. Plus: Robinhood launches tokenized stocks in the EU on Arbitrum, AJ shares the roadmap for Robinhood Chain, and we debate whether token wrappers, buybacks, and DAT M&A mark the next era of crypto capital markets. Show highlights 🔹 Tom Lee’s ETH Blitz – How BitMine amassed 1.5% of the ETH supply, why Tom Lee says ETH could flip BTC, and how he’s become the “face of Ethereum.” 🔹 mNAV Compression Across DATs – Big-name DATs (BitMine, MicroStrategy) hold premiums; smaller ones trend toward par or discounts. 🔹 Japan’s MetaPlanet Tax Arbitrage – Why MetaPlanet trades at 2.5–3× NAV: stock taxation loopholes vs. crypto income tax rates in Japan. 🔹 DAT Buybacks, Activism & M&A – SharpLink’s buyback plan, potential for hostile takeovers, and speculation around “DAT piracy.” 🔹 One-DAT-per-Alt Endgame – Why most new DATs are failing, the shift to consolidation, and why each token may only support one treasury long-term. 🔹 Staking ETFs vs DATs – DATs can stake nearly 100% of assets; ETFs are constrained by redemptions and liquidity windows. 🔹 Corporate Tax Drag & Onchain Yield – Trade-offs between tax efficiency and flexibility in corporate vs. ETF structures. 🔹 WFE vs. Tokenized Stocks – Global exchange lobby attacks third-party wrappers as misleading “tokenized stocks” lacking shareholder protections. 🔹 Robinhood’s Tokenized Stock Rollout – Launching in the EU under MiCA, built on Arbitrum One, with a full Robinhood Chain to follow. 🔹 Stylus & Arbitrum Stack Strategy – Why Rust/C/C++ compatibility on Arbitrum helped win the Robinhood deal; flexibility for fintech devs. 🔹 Hyperliquid’s Bridge to Arbitrum – $5B+ in assets sourced via Arbitrum; why Arbitrum’s partner-first posture beats chasing L3s. 🔹 DATs as the New CMOs – How charismatic leaders like Tom Lee and Saylor act as public-facing evangelists for their ecosystems.

The ETH Opportunity: Why SharpLink Is All-In

Joseph Chalom is Co-CEO at SharpLink and Jason Linehan is Chief Strategy Officer at Consensys. In this episode, we unpack what Joseph refers to as The ETH Opportunity and why SharpLink is all-in with their ETH treasury offering, SBET. From Joseph’s background at BlackRock to SharpLink’s mission to offer exposure to ETH and ETH yield in the public markets, this conversation explores why Ethereum sits at the center of digital asset adoption and why the moment to accumulate ETH is now. We also discuss The Trustware Report outlining the investment case for ETH, how SharpLink’s approach differs from an ETH ETF, and why institutional investors are increasingly drawn to ETH over BTC. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ♦️⁠ REDSTONE⁠ | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE https://www.redstone.finance/ ♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS https://toros.finance/ 🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET https://app.maple.finance/earn?referral=Mig0gHP59IYC 🦅 ⁠FALCON⁠ | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE https://app.falcon.finance?r=0ec4ccafcd94a7756710278ebfd7dd4b ⚡ ⁠SPARK⁠ | THE ONCHAIN CAPITAL ALLOCATOR https://link.spark.fi/Defi_Dad 🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE https://group.mantle.xyz/ ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED https://gearbox.fi/ 🐡⁠ PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | STAKING SOLUTIONS FOR INSTITUTIONAL SCALE https://institutional.puffer.fi/ 📈⁠ RUMPEL⁠ | TURN POINTS INTO PROFITS https://www.rumpel.xyz/ ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 7:22 - Joseph’s journey from BlackRock to SharpLink 11:09 - Jason’s role and experience at ConsenSys 13:15 - The importance of Ethereum and ETH for investors 19:07 - Why Joe joined SharpLink 21:35 - The Trustware Report 29:02 - The ETH Opportunity 34:07 - Sponsor break 35:17 - SharpLink’s edge over an ETH ETF 37:58 - The urgency to accumulate ETH 39:49 - Why focus on ETH over BTC as a treasury asset? 45:28 - Understanding DeFi and its institutional adoption 49:23 - Sponsor break 50:48 - Ways SharpLink raises capital to buy more ETH 55:37 - Leveraging institutional relationships to grow SharpLink 56:57 - Strategic partnership between SharpLink and Consensys 59:38 - Why SharpLink is working with Linea L2 1:02:58 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► SharpLink website: https://www.sharplink.com/ ► SharpLink on X: https://x.com/sharplinkgaming ► Joseph Chalom on X: https://x.com/joechalom ► Jason Linehan on X: https://x.com/0x81B ► Trustware Report: https://consensys.io/ethereum/trust ------ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad and Nomatic both hold ETH and SBET. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Grants, Tokens, Streams: Evolving How We Fund Builders

In this episode of The Optimism Show, Kris Gligoroski sits down with Ruben from OB Dollar to explore the structural flaws in grant-based funding for onchain builders. The discussion highlights issues like OP token volatility, delayed payouts, and the overdependence on retroactive rewards. Ruben outlines potential alternatives—including real-time funding streams via Drips and Superfluid, milestone-based incentives, and treasury-backed loans—that offer more predictable and sustainable support. The conversation also touches on Superchain dynamics, funding politics, and the often-overlooked offchain work required to grow the ecosystem. A timely look at how funding models in Web3 are evolving. 00:08 – Real-time funding with Drips & Superfluid 02:22 – The limits of retroactive rewards 05:31 – OP token volatility & builder risk 07:33 – Marketing incentives vs. builder pay 10:59 – Grants vs. sustainable project timelines 14:40 – What onchain metrics don’t capture 16:15 – Balancing builder needs & investor goals 18:15 – Superchain politics & funding power dynamics 20:01 – Final message: collective care ≠ optional Connect with Ruben: Twitter/X: https://x.com/optimisticUSD Website: https://obdollar.xyz Connect with Kris: Warpcast: https://warpcast.com/thekris LinkedIn: / thekrispartne For sponsorships and collaborations: Email: pod@optimism.show DISCLAIMER: This episode does not constitute financial advice. Web3, DAOs, and decentralized tools carry risk. Always do your own research (DYOR).

Why ETH Is The Best Way To Bet On The Stablecoin Boom

Maria Shen is a General Partner and Sanjay Shah is in Research at Electric Capital. In this episode, we break down Electric Capital's latest report on how the growth of stablecoins drives demand for ETH. We unpack why Ethereum the network is best positioned to serve global demand for stablecoins, its current dominance in stablecoin liquidity, how ETH’s status as a reserve asset and store of value is accelerating with demand for stablecoins, and why holding ETH may be the easiest, simplest way to get exposure to stablecoin growth over the next decade. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ♦️⁠ REDSTONE⁠ | THE LEADING MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN ORACLE https://www.redstone.finance/ ♉︎ TOROS | EXPONENTIAL GAINS WITH LEVERAGED TOKENS https://toros.finance/ 🥞 SYRUPUSDC BY MAPLE | DEFI'S PREMIUM YIELD ASSET https://app.maple.finance/earn?referral=Mig0gHP59IYC 🦅 ⁠FALCON⁠ | OVERCOLLATERIZED SYNTHETIC DOLLAR - POINTS PROGRAM NOW LIVE https://app.falcon.finance?r=0ec4ccafcd94a7756710278ebfd7dd4b ⚡ ⁠SPARK⁠ | THE ONCHAIN CAPITAL ALLOCATOR https://link.spark.fi/Defi_Dad 🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE https://group.mantle.xyz/ ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED https://gearbox.fi/ 🐡⁠ PUFFER UNIFI⁠ | A BASED ROLLUP TO ETHEREUM WITH NATIVE YIELDS https://www.puffer.fi/unifi 📈⁠ RUMPEL⁠ | TURN POINTS INTO PROFITS https://www.rumpel.xyz/ ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 5:36 - Background on Electric Capital 7:21 - Why write this Ethereum stablecoin report 9:29 - Outsized demand globally for dollar-pegged stablecoins 10:59 - Why Ethereum is the best network for stablecoin demand 15:48 - The value of decentralization on Ethereum 22:52 - Sponsor break 24:02 - How ETH becomes a reserve asset and SoV 27:29 - ETH DATs accelerating demand for ETH 30:27 - Beginning to connect ETH and stablecoin growth 36:02 - Sponsor break 37:39 - Challenges to replicate Ethereum’s stablecoin flywheel 44:10 - Risks to Electric Capital’s thesis for ETH 48:25 - The role of L2s in the Ethereum stablecoin flywheel 50:41 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Electric Capital website: https://www.electriccapital.com/ ► Beyond Stablecoins, The Case for Ethereum Report: https://electriccapital.substack.com/p/beyond-stablecoins-the-case-for-ethereum ► Electric Capital on X: https://x.com/electriccapital ► Maria on X: https://x.com/mariashen ► Sanjay on X: https://x.com/sanjaypshah ------ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and Electric Capital all hold ETH. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Building User-Centric Products on Solana with Jito | Hayden Tsutsui + Dr. Nick Almond

Follow Rubicon Podcast: https://x.com/Rubicon_pod Produced by Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_Coverage Hersh and Dawufi sit down with Dr. Nick Almond and Hayden Tsutsui from Jito to explore decentralized governance, validator infrastructure on Solana, and the future of user control. They discuss the impact of a world without Jito, the mechanics behind Just-In-Time Ordering, and how it enables more deterministic execution for users and better rewards for validators. Dr. Nick shares insights on governance design, highlighting the importance of subsidiarity and the limits of token-based systems. The conversation also touches on Solana’s collaborative developer culture and the growing need for strong privacy protections in the digital age. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 02:04 - Hayden's Background in Crypto and Trading 05:06 - Dr. Nick's Journey from Physics to Crypto 08:09 - Decentralized Governance in Academia 11:03 - Understanding JITO: Just-In-Time Ordering 13:23 - Impact of JITO on the Solana Ecosystem 16:15 - User Experience Without JITO 19:49 - JITO's Role in Economic Layer of Solana 22:01 - Building on JITO: Opportunities for Developers 24:17 - The Importance of User Control in Opacity 27:04 - Privacy and Data Security Concerns 30:52 - The Need for Privacy Technology 33:00 - Selective Information Disclosure in Governance 34:40 - The Public Governance Trap in DAOs 40:19 - Governance Optimization vs. Minimization 42:49 - Challenges of Token-Based Governance 45:03 - Pragmatism in Governance Systems 46:16 - Decentralization vs. Leadership in Crypto 48:14 - Cultural Dynamics in the Solana Ecosystem Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.