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How To Think About Restaking Economics with Tarun Chitra

Welcome to episode 13 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a very insightful conversation about building the correct mental model for restaking and crypto-economic security. We had the opportunity to sit down with Tarun Chitra from Gauntlet, who brought mental models, analogies, and key information to the table about how restaking mechanisms work, what makes EigenLayer's economics operate, and why incentives play a crucial role in this evolving ecosystem. We kicked things off by exploring the concept of valuing restaked security from one of Tarun's recent blog posts. Tarun explained how the decisions made by node operators—especially around which AVSs they allocate to—can have a ripple effect across the network. It’s not just about individual services; these choices can influence the broader stability of the ecosystem. A key part of our discussion was understanding the risks of cascading attacks. Tarun highlighted how failures in one AVS can impact others, leading to potential systemic issues. To prevent this, it’s essential to design security measures that address both local (individual service) and global (network-wide) risks. We discussed the analogy towards traditional finance, mortgages, and bonds to help conceptualize these concepts. One of the most interesting points was about EigenLayer’s introduction of a new security model featuring "unique stake." This model helps mitigate risks by allowing specific ETH reserves to be slashable only by particular services, providing a layer of isolation and addressing concerns about overlapping slashing risks. We also discussed the power law as it applies to AVSs—some thriving by transitioning from incentive-based models to sustainable revenue streams, while others might not make the cut longer-term. If you’re looking to get a clearer understanding of how restaking economics works, this is the podcast for you. Enjoy. The Rollup 𝗘𝗶𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗟𝗮𝘆𝗲𝗿 𝗨𝗻𝗹𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗔𝗹𝘁𝗟𝗮𝘆𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗣𝗼𝗹𝘆𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝗔𝗹𝘁𝗟𝗮𝘆𝗲𝗿 is an open and decentralized protocol that accelerates the launch of native and restaked rollups as well as AVSs. Our flagship product ‘restaked rollups’ has been an industry disruptor, unlocking the true value of rollups with enhanced security, decentralization, fast finality, and interoperability. AltLayer also recently launched the market’s first AVS-as-a-Service platform called “Wizard”- which templatizes AVS tools for convenience, hyper-accelerating their adoption and fast-tracking scalability for Web3. Follow AltLayer's Twitter: https://twitter.com/alt_layer and Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/altlayer 𝗣𝗼𝗹𝘆𝗺𝗲𝗿 is the first real-time interoperability solution that combines message passing and state streaming into an infinitely scalable network layer for the upcoming appchain meta. It can scale alongside L2 block times and leverage the security guarantees of connected rollups while offering re-org protection. Check it out here: https://www.polymerlabs.org/ 00:45 Introduction 01:50 Valuing Crypto Economic Security 11:23 Incentives and Security in AVSs 17:11 LRTs and Risk Management 25:56 Dynamic Risk Allocation in LRTs 30:47 Parallels Between Restaking and Mortagages 35:16 The Future of Credit Markets on Blockchain 38:21 AVS Revenue Models and Market Dynamics 45:26 Collateral Types and Risk Management in Restaking 50:06 EIGEN Token Economics Gauntlet Website: https://www.gauntlet.xyz/ Gauntlet Socials: https://x.com/gauntlet_xyz Tarun Chitra Socials: https://x.com/tarunchitra 𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀: Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl . . . 𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴. #EigenLayer #ModularBlockchains #Ethereum #Gauntlet

Will Particle Network Unify All Crypto Apps Through Chain Abstraction?

Tabasco is the Head of Developer Relations at Particle Network. In this episode, we discuss whether Particle Network can unify all crypto apps across all chains through chain abstraction. As Particle Network prepares for Mainnet launch, Tabasco shares their important work to simplify the crypto user experience with one account for any chain, why chain abstraction is more than hype, and how this will lead to greater mainstream adoption of crypto. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI https://summer.fi/?utm_source=DeFidad 🧙‍♂️ MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 https://merlinchain.io/ 🍵 MATCHA.XYZ | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS https://matcha.xyz/?utm_source=theedgepodcast&utm_campaign=2q24 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS https://www.mantle.xyz/ 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH https://puffer.fi/ 💰 TELLER | DEFI'S CASH ADVANCE https://teller.org/ 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS https://moonbeam.network/ ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 4:08 - Tabasco's background 7:47 - Why Particle Network? 13:23 - What is chain abstraction? 17:01 - How Particle fits into chain abstraction stack 23:48 - Mantle mid-roll 24:42 - Why chain abstraction is more than hype? 40:52 - Apps made possible by chain abstraction 44:22 - Teller and Moonbeam mid-roll 45:36 - How can we trust Particle Network? 49:22 - When Particle Network Mainnet? 52:06 - Closing and Particle Pioneer program ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Particle Network Website: https://particle.network/ ► Particle Network on Twitter: https://x.com/ParticleNtwrk ► Tabasco on Twitter: https://x.com/tabascoweb3 ► Particle Pioneer Program: https://pioneer.particle.network/ ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Will Particle Network Unify All Crypto Apps Through Chain Abstraction?

Tabasco is the Head of Developer Relations at Particle Network. In this episode, we discuss whether Particle Network can unify all crypto apps across all chains through chain abstraction. As Particle Network prepares for Mainnet launch, Tabasco shares their important work to simplify the crypto user experience with one account for any chain, why chain abstraction is more than hype, and how this will lead to greater mainstream adoption of crypto. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://twitter.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://twitter.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI https://summer.fi/?utm_source=DeFidad 🧙‍♂️ MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 https://merlinchain.io/ 🍵 MATCHA.XYZ | THE BEST PRICE ON OVER 5 MILLION TOKENS https://matcha.xyz/?utm_source=theedgepodcast&utm_campaign=2q24 🧑‍🌾 MANTLE | THE ETHEREUM L2 FOR TOP NATIVE YIELDS https://www.mantle.xyz/ 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | LIQUID RESTAKING FOR THE LITTLE FISH https://puffer.fi/ 💰 TELLER | DEFI'S CASH ADVANCE https://teller.org/ 🌕 MOONBEAM | INTEGRATED WEB3 FOR BUILDERS AND USERS https://moonbeam.network/ ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 4:08 - Tabasco's background 7:47 - Why Particle Network? 13:23 - What is chain abstraction? 17:01 - How Particle fits into chain abstraction stack 23:48 - Mantle mid-roll 24:42 - Why chain abstraction is more than hype? 40:52 - Apps made possible by chain abstraction 44:22 - Teller and Moonbeam mid-roll 45:36 - How can we trust Particle Network? 49:22 - When Particle Network Mainnet? 52:06 - Closing and Particle Pioneer program ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Particle Network Website: https://particle.network/ ► Particle Network on Twitter: https://x.com/ParticleNtwrk ► Tabasco on Twitter: https://x.com/tabascoweb3 ► Particle Pioneer Program: https://pioneer.particle.network/ ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Context S3: Inside Super Punk World w/ Nina Chanel Abney and Todd Kramer

Blake speaks with the brilliant Nina Chanel Abney, world renowned multidisciplinary artist. Her resume is beyond impressive; her work is in the permanent collections of museums like The MoMa and The Whitney, and she just released her second collaboration with Nike, designing her take on the iconic Jordan 3. Earlier this year, she was the first artist selected for Punk in Residence, an art program by CryptoPunks designed to champion creative experimentation with web 3. She released Super Punk World, her 500 piece NFT collection in May as part of the program. Throughout this episode, you’ll get further context on Nina’s entire body of work, her artistic vision and what she stands for, while Blake and her chat about the WNBA, her Nike collab, art history, how humour translates across mediums and more. The second half of the episode is dedicated to talking about Super Punk World, from its conception to its reception, to what’s next. Accompanying Nina is the innovative gallerist and collector Todd Kramer, who provides illuminating perspectives about the business side of the art industry, what Nina has accomplished in her career thus far and The Gallery of Digital Assets (GODA) which Nina and him co-founded with Pharrell (among others!). The three of them have an inspiring and pertinent discussion that is especially relevant for crypto art and NFT collectors and anyone interested in creativity onchain. Nina’s Twitter: https://x.com/ninachanel Super Punk World: https://hub.cryptopunks.app/gallery/nina Nina’s Nike Collab: https://www.nike.com/ca/launch/t/air-jordan-3-retro-x-nina-chanel-abney-bicoastal-and-malachite Todd’s Twitter: https://x.com/toddkramer1 Blake’s Twitter: https://x.com/blakefinucane Boys Club Newsletter: https://boysclub.beehiiv.com/

Context S3: Inside Super Punk World w/ Nina Chanel Abney and Todd Kramer

Blake speaks with the brilliant Nina Chanel Abney, world renowned multidisciplinary artist. Her resume is beyond impressive; her work is in the permanent collections of museums like The MoMa and The Whitney, and she just released her second collaboration with Nike, designing her take on the iconic Jordan 3. Earlier this year, she was the first artist selected for Punk in Residence, an art program by CryptoPunks designed to champion creative experimentation with web 3. She released Super Punk World, her 500 piece NFT collection in May as part of the program. Throughout this episode, you’ll get further context on Nina’s entire body of work, her artistic vision and what she stands for, while Blake and her chat about the WNBA, her Nike collab, art history, how humour translates across mediums and more. The second half of the episode is dedicated to talking about Super Punk World, from its conception to its reception, to what’s next. Accompanying Nina is the innovative gallerist and collector Todd Kramer, who provides illuminating perspectives about the business side of the art industry, what Nina has accomplished in her career thus far and The Gallery of Digital Assets (GODA) which Nina and him co-founded with Pharrell (among others!). The three of them have an inspiring and pertinent discussion that is especially relevant for crypto art and NFT collectors and anyone interested in creativity onchain. Nina’s Twitter: https://x.com/ninachanel Super Punk World: https://hub.cryptopunks.app/gallery/nina Nina’s Nike Collab: https://www.nike.com/ca/launch/t/air-jordan-3-retro-x-nina-chanel-abney-bicoastal-and-malachite Todd’s Twitter: https://x.com/toddkramer1 Blake’s Twitter: https://x.com/blakefinucane Boys Club Newsletter: https://boysclub.beehiiv.com/