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Why DeFi’s Next Trillion Will Come From Institutions

Aya Kantorovich is the Co-CEO and Co-Founder at August and Upshift. In this episode, we explore how Upshift and August are building institutional-grade infrastructure to unlock the next wave of capital into DeFi. Plus, how everyday users can earn the same curated, risk-managed yield as institutions! ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources 🪄 NEWTON | SIMPLER CRYPTO UX WITH VERIFIABLE AI AGENTS https://newton.xyz/ 🔮 ⁠PYTH NETWORK⁠ | SMARTER DATA FOR SMARTER CONTRACTS https://pyth.network/ 🤙 SKALE NETWORK | THE GAS-FREE INVISIBLE L1 BLOCKCHAIN https://skale.space/ 📊 iYIELD | YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED https://go.iyield.com/edge 🏦 MANTLE | INNOVATING THE FUTURE OF ONCHAIN FINANCE https://group.mantle.xyz/ 🌔 MOONWELL | THE LEADING LENDING AND BORROWING APP ON BASE https://moonwell.fi/ ⚙️ GEARBOX PROTOCOL | ONCHAIN LENDING REIMAGINED https://gearbox.fi/ 🐡 PUFFER UNIFI | AN ETHEREUM BASED ROLLUP WITH NATIVE YIELDS https://unifi.puffer.fi/ 🥞 SYRUP.FI | INSTITUTIONAL-GRADE YIELD https://syrup.fi/lend?referral=STAaNBFJwIc8 ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 8:02 - Building August, an institutional platform for crypto 14:02 - What’s needed for institutional investors to come onchain? 18:29 - Adoption comes from superior financial products 24:53 - Big TradFi money will next wave of adoption 30:06 - Better backend management is necessary for DeFi 34:59 - Sponsor break 35:40 - Composability is why DeFi beats CeFi 40:51 - Why more institutional investors choose Ethereum 46:01 - Sponsor break 47:40 - Using DeFi is where you uncover real edge 55:39 - Top vaults on Upshift 58:37 - Roadmap for August and Upshift 1:01:00 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Upshift website: https://www.upshift.finance/ ► August website: https://www.augustdigital.io/ ► Upshift on X: https://x.com/upshift_fi ► August on X: https://x.com/august_digital ► Aya on X: https://x.com/aya_kantor ------ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions. Podcast guests and hosts may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.

Hangout 2: Empowering Creativity with Ethereum featuring Adrienne from GM Farcaster and Humpty from CryptoSapiens

Two of Web3's most successful creators share exactly how they built 100K+ audiences and sustainable businesses. Humpty Calderon (CryptoSapiens newsletter) and Adrienne Schulman (GM Farcaster podcast) reveal their real strategies: from turning $500 grants into $5,000 revenue streams to building communities that actually pay you back. You'll learn why Farcaster's economics create healthier social media than Twitter, practical tools that work for creators right now, and why "talking to everyone means talking to no one." Key moments: - The grant hack that 10x'd content reach [19:00] - Why authenticity beats follower counts [45:00] - 5 revenue streams every creator needs [28:00] - Smart contracts explained simply [51:00] Adrienne Schulman Social Media: Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/adrienne Linktree: https://linktr.ee/adrienneshulman Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/age_shulman Newsletter & Writing: Paragraph Blog: https://paragraph.xyz/@adrienne Humpty Calderon Social Media: Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/humpty Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/humpty0x Newsletter & Content: CryptoSapiens Newsletter: https://cryptosapiens.xyz Tools mentioned: Farcaster, Pods Media, HyperSub, Amps, Base, Paragraph Episode 2 of our 50-part Ethereum 10th anniversary series. Chinmay Patel Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/chinmaydoteth Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/chinmaydoteth Basket.farm Marvyn Paul Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/marvp Linktree: https://linktr.ee/marvynpaul Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/mpweb3wordsmith Podcasts: Is This the New Internet: https://pods.media/is-this-the-new-internet https://twitter.com/10yearsofeth https://pods.media/10-years-of-ethereum

17: Alex Danco - Innovation Begins with Gifts

Alex Danco is a writer and Product Director at Shopify. Alex rose to prominence while writing his *Snippets* newsletter while at VC firm Social Capital in 2015. He wrote prolifically—about markets and financial systems, venture capital, startups, cities, culture, the technology-driven shift to a world of abundance, to name a few topics—through 2020, when he joined Shopify. Since then, he's had his hands full with Shopify and young kids, but recently published a flurry of new pieces on his blog while on paternity leave. This conversation starts with one of Alex's most insightful ideas: that a culture of gift-giving underpins technology, innovation, and creative work, and is the key to solving many of capitalism's coordination problems. We then talk about what businesses will look like in a world of abundance: AI agents, massive and accessible infrastructure, and where moats might actually lie. Alex shares why AI-enabled creativity may resemble musicians finding their sound and how and where we might find internet-native subcultures in 2025. Then he explains what "the medium is the message" actually means across different content formats and why audio continues to thrive. We wrap up with Alex's thoughts on the U.S and Canada as someone who identifies with both places and by taking a peek into some of the books that have most influenced his thinking. I've read Alex for years and I've always been impressed by how generative he is. That comes through in this conversation and I hope you are inspired to—like Alex—be more curious, creative, and most importantly, generous. Transcript and all links available at https://dialectic.fm/alex-danco Timestamps - (0:00): Intro to Alex - (1:28): Hampton - (3:23): Steely Dan Intro - (5:31): Coordination Problems and Silicon Valley - (21:55): Girard, Taboos, Priests and Kings, and Magical Enzymes for Creating New Things - (32:22): How Gifts Underpin New Things — Crossing Thresholds and Listening to Each Other - (44:09): Gifts vs. Performance, Gifts vs. Slop - (53:58): Overcoming “The Market for Lemons”: How Gifts and Market Mix and How Silicon Valley Resembles a Music Scene - (1:02:29): Bubbles and Generosity - (1:07:07): Patronage & Alignment - (1:11:37): Coordination in Companies, O-Ring Problems, Michael Scott, and AI - (1:25:51): Agency vs. Accountability - (1:31:54): Wide vs. pointy businesses and What Makes a Platform - (1:39:11): Moats, Leverage, and Figuring Out Your Sound: What Could Sam Altman Not Copy? - (1:50:06): AI, Originality, and Creativity - (1:55:15): Subcultures on the Internet and Frictionless Discovery - (2:00:25): What Does "The Medium is the Message" mean?: Hot & Cool Mediums - (2:11:57): Nixon-Kennedy Debates, Trump, Podcasts, Fox News, and the Decline of TV - (2:25:21): Alex's Podcast Diet - (2:28:52): U.S, Canada, and National Myths - (2:44:23): The Most Influential Books on Alex - (2:56:47): Learnings from Being in a Band - (2:59:05): Scammers - (3:02:55): Being a Dad - (3:05:24): The Best Gift Alex Has Received and the Gift He Hopes to Give