Can you build lasting value with tokens and NFTs? What does it mean for memecoins, tokenized startups, and your bags?
In Episode 65 of Internet Explorers, co-hosts Jess Sloss, Josh Cornelius, and Peace Node chat with Austin Hurwitz, Head of Strategy & Business Development at Doodles, to explore how one of crypto’s most recognizable projects is evolving for the new meta.
This episode unpacks:
The Token Singularity – Why every project is launching a token right now, and what it means for the market.Doodles’ Next Chapter – How the NFT project is evolving beyond collectibles into a full-stack media and creative studio.
NFT Chains vs. Other Models – Why some projects (like Pudgy Penguins & Abstract) are launching their own chains while Doodles is taking a different approach.The Value of Crypto Communities – How co-creation and storytelling drive long-term engagement.Memecoins & Speculation – Trump, Portnoy, and the explosion of token launches—what’s real and what’s hype?$JELLYJELLY's Viral Token Play – How the launch of $JELLYJELLY perfectly highlights the pros AND cons of tokenized launches.Social Tokens & Reputation Markets – Are onchain social assets finally finding product-market fit? And why are we not learning from our mistakes?The Next Phase of Crypto Business Models – Why real value capture is becoming more critical than ever.

Chapters:
2:02 - Austin discusses NFT projects and trends
4:13 - Overview of Doodles' evolution and partnerships
8:54 - Doodles' crypto-native brand partnerships strategy
14:55 - Converting social capital into tangible value
20:46 - Impact of leadership change in Doodles
28:24 - Venmo co-founder launches startup token?
34:33 - Intentions behind viral marketing tactics
38:12 - Utility tokens and market trends discussion
48:26 - Tax implications for crypto in the U.S
53:38 - Emphasis on reinventing ideas in crypto innovation

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