Zora Founder on the Plan to Pay Creators
If content "wants to be free", how can creators get paid? In this special edition live interview, we sit down with Jacob Horne, cofounder of Zora, for a candid conversation on the company’s evolving vision—and what they got wrong early on. Jacob opens up about Zora’s shift from marketplace to protocol, why onchain media matters more than ever, and how consumer apps in crypto have been missing the point. If you’ve ever wondered what Zora actually is or where it’s going next, this is the episode to hear it from the source. Along the way: protocol tradeoffs, the fragility of NFT incentives, and why Zora is now all-in on supporting the onchain internet through composable creation tools. It’s a peek behind the curtain of one of crypto’s most culturally influential companies. This episode unpacks: - Why Zora is no longer a marketplace company - How protocol thinking changed their product strategy - The tension between creator and collector incentives - What “onchain media” really means to Jacob - The risks of speculative activity dominating apps - Why Zora is focused on creative tooling - How Zora thinks about interoperability - A breakdown of Zora’s current app ecosystem - What success looks like for a protocol - Why this is a 20-year project Chapters: 00:00 — Intro 01:05 — Jacob joins the stage 03:02 — Zora is not a marketplace 07:33 — What went wrong in 2021 10:56 — Owning the protocol 13:31 — Measuring success 17:24 — Creators vs speculators 21:44 — Zora’s real product 26:07 — What it means to be onchain 30:30 — Long-term vision 34:53 — Future of Zora apps 39:27 — The internet is half-finished 44:10 — Open protocols to black boxes 49:15 — What meme coins unlock 53:38 — Why the DAO model broke 57:20 — Building for liquidity, not hype 01:00:42 — UX is the real innovation 01:04:17 — How Zora builds for decades 01:07:39 — Farcon week & final thoughts Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
The Harsh Reality of Onchain Games
What if a game you built today could still be played a thousand years from now? Onchain gaming is one of the hardest bets in crypto — and Kamigotchi is taking a radically different path to survive. Lethe joins to break down why most projects fail, and how building the simplest possible game could create a world that lasts for centuries. Later, Jaimin from Beans joins to share how they’re turning Internet speculation into a daily game of discovery. Plus: the future of three-person unicorns, AI-native teams, tokenized subforums, and how Plastic Labs could reshape memory and personalization for AI apps. This episode unpacks: How Plastic Labs is leveling the AI playing field with user memory techWhy AI-native startups are scaling massive impact with tiny teamsHow tokenized subforums like Subs could reinvent online communitiesThe case for three-person unicorns in the AI eraKamigotchi’s vision: a decentralized MMORPG that lasts for centuriesTechnical hurdles in building fully onchain games todayWhy Celestia and Initia were chosen to launch yominetBeans’ launch strategy: daily token drops tied to internet sitesHow Beans plans to rival algorithmic content feedsLessons from shipping speculative crypto apps in today’s market Chapters: 00:19 — Internet Explorers Kicks Off: Topics Preview 02:33 — Plastic Labs $5.35M Raise and AI Personalization 06:04 — Tokenized Forums: Exploring Subs.Fun 10:39 — The Rise of Three-Person Unicorns 17:22 — Lethe Joins: Kamigotchi’s Origins and Vision 21:55 — Why Building Onchain Games Is Brutally Hard 23:52 — Designing Kamigotchi: Simplicity or Death 28:28 — Launching on Initia and Celestia 32:12 — Building a Game Studio for the Long Term 36:35 — Jaimin Joins: Beans and Speculating on Internet Attention 43:05 — Inside the Beans Token Launch Mechanism 47:04 — The Bigger Vision: Beans as a New Social Layer 55:36 — Building in Solana vs EVM 59:08 — Farcaster Miniapp Spotlight Announcement 1:01:15 — Closing Thoughts and Sign-Off Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
This Founder's App Was Going Nowhere. Now It's #1.
Nick Confrey’s first app was all promise, no traction—until one bold pivot changed everything. This week on Internet Explorers, the crew starts with the messy fallout from Base’s content coin launch—an experiment in onchain media that spiraled into backlash, infighting, and meme coin chaos. But the real story comes in the second half, when Nick joins the show to share how he turned a floundering generalized social platform into Tome—a viral BookTok hit that hit #1 in the App Store’s books category. Nick walks us through his journey from building for “everyone” to focusing on one deeply passionate community. Along the way, he breaks down why Tome rejects ad-based business models, how it’s building creator-first monetization, and what crypto-native lessons helped shape a product for people who don’t care about crypto at all. If you’ve ever wondered how to pivot toward product-market fit—or how to go viral without selling out—this episode is for you. This episode unpacks: Why Base’s content coin launch blew up on Crypto Twitter The cultural clash between meme coins and new creator tools How one mechanism flaw tanked Base’s experiment Why Rodeo’s TikTok virality didn’t translate into growth Nick’s early app failure and what wasn’t working How focusing on BookTok turned Tome into a breakout success The philosophy behind Tome’s anti-ad, user-supported model How Tome leverages intrinsic motivation over speculation What crypto can learn from Tome’s mainstream product strategy Why the best crypto apps might never mention crypto at all Chapters: 00:27 — Jess Returns From Vacation 01:14 — Twitter Meltdown Recap 03:44 — Base Launches Content Coin 07:06 — Mechanism Fail & Blowback 08:55 — Cynicism Killing Innovation 13:55 — What Meme Coins Reveal 20:41 — Outro: Base Drama Ends 21:44 — Rodeo’s Viral Flop 25:52 — Incentives vs. Organic Behavior 29:07 — Guest Intro: Nick Confrey 30:52 — The Pivot to BookTok 36:23 — How Tome Went Viral 40:29 — Monetizing Without Ads 43:01 — Incentives for Creativity 46:41 — Mini Apps & Remix Culture 49:34 — Growing Niche to Platform 54:35 — Tome’s Puzzle Launch 57:22 — Final Thoughts & Shoutouts 58:47 — Cozy Social, Big Lessons 01:02:29 — Crypto Growth Beyond Crypto 01:05:33 — Closing Vibes Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
How Valuable Are Your Memories? feat. RAC
$ZORA is here, memecoins are changing, CT is mad—but what does it all mean? This episode unpacks Zora's recent token launch, explores the burdens of governance, and dives deep into how "just-for-fun" tokens might be redefining crypto markets, if not the very concept of "value." Later, special guest RAC (André Allen Anjos) joins to discuss Memory Protocol, the ambitious new identity and data-sharing layer he’s co-founded, which promises to revolutionize how we manage and monetize our digital identities—starting with the music industry. This episode unpacks: * $ZORA token launch and market reactions * The difference between governance and memecoins * Brands taking their identities "public" through tokens * Exploring tokenized information markets with Politiswap * RAC’s deep dive into Memory Protocol * Why data portability matters for creators and users * The intersection of identity, markets, and crypto incentives * How Fungi’s AI bot optimizes DeFi yield * Launching apps and social dynamics onchain * Future of decentralized identity and monetization Chapters: 00:00 — Intro: Discussing incentives for app collaboration 05:26 — Zora token launch and airdrop reactions 10:09 — Memory Protocol: Building data sharing infrastructure 16:20 — Factory fm: A Letterboxd for music 22:27 — Incentivizing data sharing between applications 28:30 — Farcon event announcement and Kamigotchi launch 34:17 — Oscillator: Building products for music industry 40:25 — Memory Protocol: Connecting apps and reducing friction 46:20 — Bootstrapping networks and proving use cases 55:34 — Fungi: AI-powered DeFi yield optimization agent 1:00:00 — Closing thoughts and upcoming content Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
How to Solve Crypto’s Real Problem
The crypto industry got a serious vibe check this week—and it feels like we’re hitting an inflection point. Solana’s latest ad campaign sparked a massive backlash, raising questions about the values shaping the space. Was it just a misfire, or does it signal a deeper cultural shift? At the same time, outdated token models are finally being called out as the industry moves past high-FDV, low-float launches that leave investors holding the bag. We also dive into the rise of stablecoins in fintech, how Privy is making crypto onboarding seamless, and why crypto’s UX problem is solved—even though funding wallets is still a nightmare. Plus, Disney hires a crypto OG, vanity metrics are finally getting exposed, and we debate whether token launches are evolving or just recycling the same old grifts. If you want to know where crypto is actually headed beyond the hype, this episode is for you. This episode unpacks: * Solana’s ad backlash—cringe marketing or a deeper shift? * Why fintech giants are moving to stablecoins * How Privy is fixing onboarding and wallet UX * The end of high-FDV, low-float tokenomics * Why vanity metrics no longer fool anyone * Fat apps vs. infrastructure—who really wins? * Disney’s Crypto hire—real move or PR stunt? * Airdrops as tax burdens, not free money * Pump, Rainbow, and the future of token launches * What crypto must believe in to move forward Chapters: 0:00 — Intro: Crypto's promise of hope and abundance 5:54 — Solana ad controversy and community response 12:00 — Privy's $15 million raise and crypto onboarding 19:28 — Challenges in getting assets into wallets 26:53 — Shift towards earning tokens and social context 32:43 — Token models: Issues and potential solutions 44:48 — Rethinking token launches and distribution methods 55:54 — Bobby Hundreds joins Disney as VP 59:57 — Pump and Rainbow: New token launch platforms 1:02:51 — NYSE's brand promise and crypto's potential 1:04:48 — Outro: Upcoming topics and newsletter recommendations Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
The Gameshow that Pays to Play
Can a gameshow make crypto fun and profitable at the same time? This week on Internet Explorers, we sit down with Krish Jagirdar, co-founder of Rek Tech, the crypto game show where players compete for high-stakes prizes like Rolexes and rare NFTs. Krish shares how Internet Game evolved into Rek Tech and why experiential crypto products are capturing attention. We also dive into Zora’s memecoin experiment—is this the cleanest way to launch a token? Plus, Lore founder Thomas Scaria unveils a new on-chain hedge fund platform, aiming to bring trust and transparency to crypto investing. With crypto gaming, memecoins, and onchain finance all heating up, we explore what’s actually working in crypto right now. Tune in for insights, bold takes, and the latest trends shaping the space. This episode unpacks: * The Game Show That Pays You to Play? Inside Rek Tech’s Wild, Wild Crypto Experiment * Zora Just Launched a Memecoin—Is This the Future of Crypto Tokens? * On-Chain Hedge Funds Are Here—Will They Replace Traditional * Is Crypto Gaming the Next Big Crypto Trend? Inside the Rek Tech Experiment * The Ownership Economy Is Dead? Zora’s Token Experiment Says Otherwise * Forget Governance—Memecoins Are the Future of Crypto Tokens * Crypto Games, Memecoins & On-Chain Investing—Where Crypto is Headed Next * Jess and Josh dive into the broader trend of ephemeral on-chain experiences and what it takes to build long-term compounding value in Crypto. Chapters: 00:00 — Intro & Friday Vibes – Jess & Josh set the stage 02:09 — Crypto Gaming Trends: Crypto the Game & Experiential Tokens 03:39 — Introducing Krish Jagirdar: The Evolution from Internet Game to Rec Tech 08:09 — What Makes Rec Tech Different? Prize Pools, Memes & Community 13:24 — How to Play: Dream Pass, Daily Games & Season 1 Details 19:42 — The Rise of Ephemeral Crypto Games & Attention Economy 23:35 — Zora’s Meme Coin Strategy: Smart Move or Legal Hurdle? 28:01 — Should TikTok Go On-Chain? Alexis Ohanian’s Big Idea 34:07 — Fully Automated Firms: AI-Run Companies & the Future of Work 43:00 — On-Chain Funds with Thomas Scaria: Inside Lore’s New Model 51:08 — The Future of Crypto Investing: On-Chain Funds & Tokenized Economies 58:44 — Final Thoughts & What’s Next for Internet Explorers Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
This AI Predicts Startup Success | Internet Explorers Ep. 69
What happens when AI replaces venture capitalists? Tribute Labs’ new project, ADIN, introduces an AI-driven investment DAO that evaluates deals, votes on funding, and predicts startup valuations—all without human bias. But can an algorithm really spot the next unicorn? This episode unpacks: * AI vs. VCs – Can machine learning replace investor intuition? * Blackbird’s Flynet launch – A blockchain-based restaurant loyalty network taking on Visa’s 3% transaction tax. * Zora’s bold pivot – Every post is now a liquid token. A game-changer for creators or just speculation? * Pump.fun’s next move – Launching their own AMM to dominate the meme economy. * The end of ideology in crypto? – Why execution and distribution are now more important than theory. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro & The VC Vending Machine 05:32 – ADIN: Can AI Replace VCs? 14:37 – Blackbird's Flynet: Restaurants vs. Visa 23:49 – Zora Goes Full DeFi: Every Post is a Token 36:15 – Pump.fun’s AMM: The Memecoin Casino Expands 42:41 – Ethereum Foundation's Communication and Ideological Debates 50:26 – Crypto’s New Business Model: Show Me the Money 55:57 – The Future of AI in Investing: Hype or Inevitable? 1:02:07 – Final Thoughts & What’s Next for Onchain Consumer Tech? Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
MegaETH's plan to save Ethereum (and beat Solana at their own game)
How does ETH get its swagger back? According to Namik Muduroglu from MegaETH, the answer is forgetting memecoin nonsense, getting back to its "world computer" roots, and adopting a Bronze Age mentality. Josh and guest host Nicholas dive deep into MegaETH's innovative architecture, which separates consensus from execution, and unlocks unparalleled performance. Namik shares insights on incubating killer apps to demonstrate the chain's potential and their unique community fundraising approach. The discussion also touches on the competitive landscape, highlighting Solana as a key rival. Josh and Nicholas then keep you up to date with the big moments of the week, including Farcaster's Coinbase Wallet integration, Berachain updates, and all the new Clankers. Chapters: 0:00 – Intro: discussing MegaETH and blockchain innovation 5:06 – MegaETH: real-time blockchain with unique architecture 10:59 – Mega Mafia: incubating innovative blockchain applications 16:02 – MegaETH's community fundraising approach 24:34 – Retail in crypto: anything beyond financial gain? 40:49 – Exploring financial and social motivations 51:35 – New Clankers: AI-driven token launch platforms 56:45 – Digital art's potential to "save" Ethereum Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
Beyond Speculation: Doodles Strategy + The Real Value in Tokens
Can you build lasting value with tokens and NFTs? What does it mean for memecoins, tokenized startups, and your bags? In Episode 65 of Internet Explorers, co-hosts Jess Sloss, Josh Cornelius, and Peace Node chat with Austin Hurwitz, Head of Strategy & Business Development at Doodles, to explore how one of crypto’s most recognizable projects is evolving for the new meta. This episode unpacks: The Token Singularity – Why every project is launching a token right now, and what it means for the market.Doodles’ Next Chapter – How the NFT project is evolving beyond collectibles into a full-stack media and creative studio. NFT Chains vs. Other Models – Why some projects (like Pudgy Penguins & Abstract) are launching their own chains while Doodles is taking a different approach.The Value of Crypto Communities – How co-creation and storytelling drive long-term engagement.Memecoins & Speculation – Trump, Portnoy, and the explosion of token launches—what’s real and what’s hype?$JELLYJELLY's Viral Token Play – How the launch of $JELLYJELLY perfectly highlights the pros AND cons of tokenized launches.Social Tokens & Reputation Markets – Are onchain social assets finally finding product-market fit? And why are we not learning from our mistakes?The Next Phase of Crypto Business Models – Why real value capture is becoming more critical than ever. Chapters: 2:02 - Austin discusses NFT projects and trends 4:13 - Overview of Doodles' evolution and partnerships 8:54 - Doodles' crypto-native brand partnerships strategy 14:55 - Converting social capital into tangible value 20:46 - Impact of leadership change in Doodles 28:24 - Venmo co-founder launches startup token? 34:33 - Intentions behind viral marketing tactics 38:12 - Utility tokens and market trends discussion 48:26 - Tax implications for crypto in the U.S 53:38 - Emphasis on reinventing ideas in crypto innovation Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a
TikTok ban looms as crypto megarounds return | Ep. 63
What happens when founders no longer feel afraid to experiment? In Episode 63 of Internet Explorers, co-hosts Jess Sloss and Josh Cornelius dive into the growing tensions around a potential TikTok ban and what it reveals about platform centralization. Joined by Dan Sargent (Mintstars), then Matthew Fox (Clankermon), the conversation unpacks the return of crypto mega funding rounds, lessons from navigating creator economies, and the future of distributed app ecosystems. This episode covers: * TikTok Ban Looms: Why it could redefine online media power structures. * Crypto’s Comeback: Is 2025 the start of a new funding cycle? * Creators and Crypto Rails: How Mintstars leverages crypto to challenge traditional platforms. * On-Chain Entertainment: Clankermon’s vision for mini-apps and the post-AGI world. * The UX Barrier: Why adoption hinges on user-centric crypto interfaces. From creator-first platforms to the latest innovations in crypto, this episode explores the key challenges and opportunities for builders shaping the next phase of the consumer internet. Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Where are we in the AI x Crypto hype cycle? w/ Ben Roy & Nicholas | Ep. 61
Is AI the breakthrough crypto needs? Or is it just in need of good UX? In this first episode of Internet Explorers for 2025, co-hosts Jess Sloss and Josh Cornelius are joined by Ben Roy and Nicholas for a wide-ranging exploration of the metas, tools, and ideas reshaping the Internet. This episode covers: - AI Agents as Proto-Corporations: Are we seeing the birth of a new organizational paradigm? Inspired by Scott Belsky’s Cognicos, the team dives into AI-native coordination and its parallels to DAOs. - Crypto’s UX Problem: From confusing wallet setups to network hurdles, crypto adoption continues to struggle. Is 2025 the year this finally changes? - The Fat Protocol vs. Fat Apps Debate: Exploring where value truly accrues as foundational models evolve and application layers innovate. - Dream Time Theory: What if this moment is the internet’s greatest inflection point? We reflect on Robin Hanson’s idea of a generational turning point, shaped by transformative tech like crypto and AI. Whether you're a builder, an AI skeptic, or just curious about the intersections of decentralized networks and artificial intelligence, this episode provides thoughtful insights into the possibilities—and challenges—of the year ahead. Chapters: 00:00 - Big Questions for 2025 09:00 - Rabbit Holes from the Break 13:00 - AI as New Corporations 22:00 - Solving Crypto UX Woes 32:00 - Where's the Value: Protocols vs. Apps 36:00 - Dream Time: An Inflection Point 42:00 - Personal Brands in AI Economies 48:00 - Reimagining Coordination on-Chain 54:00 - Future of Networked Incentives 60:00 - Closing Reflections on Focus Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET. Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS?si=4cda0ac044dc4c6a Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Worldbuilding for AI w/ Poof from DXRG & Martin from Aethernet | Ep. 59
Agents can "think" and talk... but they're confined in a carefully crafted world. In episode #59 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh dive into a diverse lineup of topics, beginning with DXRG, an experimental AI and crypto project redefining how decentralized systems can drive creative expression. They explore its groundbreaking first drop, "The Singularity," which used onchain prompts and live-streamed AI agents to create a uniquely interactive experience. The discussion shifts to Aethernet, where they check in on one of the earliest AI agents in crypto, reflecting on its impact and lessons learned. The hosts then tackle the debate around “Tokens Aren't Equity”, exploring the limitations of viewing tokens as traditional financial instruments and what that means for the future of crypto. They also highlight Tokenize/acc, discussing its potential to accelerate funding mechanisms for unconventional crypto experiments. The episode wraps up with Mozi, a new app trying to make "social" social again, by showing which of your friends are going to the same event as you. 0:00 - Intro 0:56 - Start of Episode 3:16 - DXRG 26:45 - Aethernet 43:05 - Tokens Aren't Equity 48:00 - tokenize/acc 54:34 - Mozi Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZ... Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
This Will End Trader LARPs w/ wijuwiju.eth of Interface | Ep. 57
Finally, we know who the top trader is. In episode #57 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh delve into some of the most intriguing trends shaping Web3 and crypto. They kick things off with Interface, a platform that merges social networking with the blockchain, enabling users to build their social graph by copy-trading wallets and forming reputation-driven connections directly on-chain. The hosts reflect on the challenges and successes of developing consumer-focused blockchain products during a bear market and how Interface is carving out a niche with its discovery and trading features. The conversation then shifts to tokenomics, focusing on the evolution from complex whitepapers to meme-driven token launches. They explore the balance between capturing early belief and building utility over time, emphasizing the need for sustainability in token models. Other key topics include Capital Formation in the Reputation Era, where they examine how on-chain reputation is reshaping funding models, and Model Personality as a Moat, which highlights the growing role of AI in defining unique business defensibilities. The episode concludes with updates on Base’s resurgence and an exciting Lightning Round, featuring a creative vampire attack idea. 0:00 - Intro 0:26 - Start of Episode 4:09 - Interface 28:24 - Checking in on Tokenomics 39:53 - Capital Formation in the Reputation Era 47:48 - Model Personality as a Moat 52:40 - Base is Back 54:20 - A Stroll Through Consumer Crypto 55:52 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZ... Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Can Crypto Accelerate Scientific Breakthroughs? w/ Tyler from Triplicate | Ep. 56
Tyler is putting Science back into the hands of the people. In episode #56 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh explore the forefront of decentralized science (DeSci) with Tyler from Triplicate, unpacking how blockchain is unlocking new funding models, democratizing research, and enabling cutting-edge projects like molecular therapeutics and patient-driven clinical trials. They analyze how these decentralized approaches are breaking free from the constraints of traditional institutions and incentivizing innovation in unexpected ways. The discussion shifts to distribution-first software, a paradigm focused on leveraging social networks and decentralized platforms to maximize reach and adoption before building standalone products. They also examine the concept of Moats in the age of AI, debating whether traditional business defensibility strategies hold up in a world of open-source models and rapidly evolving technologies. Later, they reflect on the growing presence of normies in degen crypto spaces, and the unhinged activities occurring on pump.fun (jess is scared). The episode concludes with ai16z drama, reflecting on how it's more difficult it is to build when a token is involved. 0:00 - Intro 1:08 - Start of Episode 4:26 - DeSci 37:07 - Distribution-First Software 42:38 - Moats In The Age Of AI 49:32 - The Normies Are Here 54:48 - ai16z Drama Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZ... Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Memecoins, But Automated w/ Proxystudio | Ep. 55
Capturing social attention for your token has never been easier. In episode #55 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh take another dive into frontier of innovation in crypto. The episode kicks off with Proxy Studio, where founder Alex discusses their new project, Clanker Studio, which combines social interactions with token deployments, reshaping how tokens are launched by natively integrating the process with Farcaster. The conversation then shifts to Web4, exploring AGI's potential to merge the financial foundations of Web3 with the social frameworks of Web2. They also discuss ai16z, a groundbreaking fund combining AI and decentralized technologies, and Interface, a portfolio company rethinking how crypto wallets can drive adoption through seamless user experiences. The hosts explore Hyperliquid, a new protocol simplifying liquidity solutions, and analyze recent trends in Gen Z app usage and its implications for Web3 adoption. The episode concludes with a quick Lightning Round, featuring Peace bullying an AI agent (he definitely won't ever regret this). 0:00 - Intro 0:57 - Start of Episode 4:22 - Proxy Studio 29:20 - Web4 36:03 - ai16z 42:48 - Interface 46:58 - Hyperliquid 50:15 - Gen Z App Usage 56:32 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZ... Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
You Can See Yourself In Vogue w/ Dov of Xhibit | Ep. 54
Your runway dreams might be closer than you think. In episode #54 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh cover a mix of crypto's latest innovations, starting with Xhibit, a platform merging fashion and immersive content, allowing creators to upload outfits or designs for fans to try on virtually. They explore how Xhibit’s creative model is reshaping digital expression and community engagement within the blockchain space. The conversation then shifts to $DEGEN, diving into its memecoin culture and the wild success it’s seeing on social media, reflecting the powerful influence of community-driven tokens. Kel then joins as a guest, discussing the evolving decentralized ecosystem, as well as new methods for enhancing user experiences. Later, Jess and Josh tackle the question, “What Are We Looking For?,” analyzing the traits Seed Club seeks in emerging projects and market opportunities. Jess & Josh then talk about a Polymarket whale that used the "Neighbor Method" to predict election results, and wrap up the episode with a lightning round. 0:00 - Intro 1:01 - Start of Podcast 3:24 - Xhibit 16:34 - $DEGEN 25:45 - Kel 47:11 - What Are We Looking For? 53:33 - Polymarket Whale 56:17 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZ... Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Are AI Agents Replacing Influencers? w/ Kalos of Wayfinder & Parallel | Ep. 52
In episode #52 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh cover an exciting lineup of topics that highlight emerging Web3 projects and AI integration. They start with Wayfinder with Kalos, a platform bringing AI-powered agents to blockchain, where users can deploy agents to complete complex tasks autonomously across networks. The hosts also discuss Virtuals with Matthew, a protocol where users can create autonomous AI influencers with decentralized ownership, illustrating the growth of AI and blockchain convergence. The episode then introduces Plastic Labs with Courtland, Plastic Labs' co-founder, which recently created a splash with a tool that attracted significant attention in the meme coin world, highlighting its unexpected success and the hype surrounding agent-driven coin launches. Wrapping up, the hosts launch into a Lightning Round, covering the latest updates and trends in the crypto and AI spaces, including new use cases and projects shaping the future of decentralized technology. 0:00 - Intro 0:42 - Start of Podcast 3:37 - Wayfinder w/ Kalos 19:38 - Virtuals w/ Matthew 36:26 - Plastic Labs w/ Courtland Leer 51:03 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Putting Our Brains Onchain w/ cojo.eth of Ponder | Ep. 49
In episode #49 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh kick off the conversation by diving into Ponder, a platform transforming how people seek answers and insights using decentralized technology, with its founder, cojo.eth. The discussion centers on how Ponder taps into decentralized social graphs and token-based rewards to provide more nuanced and real-time insights than traditional platforms like Quora or Reddit. They then move into a broader discussion on The Future of Chains, reflecting on how crypto networks are evolving and the long-term implications of developers choosing specific chains for their projects. The hosts touch on the idea that “Everything is Consumer,” highlighting how Web3 is increasingly focusing on user-facing applications, and debate the balance between Markets vs Values in today’s decentralized projects. The episode also features State of VC, where they examine the current state of venture capital in Web3, before providing updates on various projects in the space. The show wraps up with a fast-paced Lightning Round, covering the latest trends and upcoming launches across the decentralized ecosystem. 0:00 - Intro 0:23 - Start of Podcast 2:28 - Ponder 29:09 - The Future of Chains 41:42 - Everything is Consumer 46:29 - Markets vs Values 47:12 - State of VC Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SeedClubHQ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Social Media Betting & more w/ T H of Kizzy | Ep. 50
In episode #50 of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh dive into several major topics shaping the Web3 space. They start exploring Kizzy, a social betting app that’s gaining traction on the Monad chain, offering users a platform to speculate on creators and influencers much like a "DraftKings for social media", with it's founder, T H. The hosts explore how Kizzy is revolutionizing engagement by financializing social media, making betting on creators as engaging as sports betting. The episode also covers Seed Club’s acquisition of Build with Joey, the co-founder of Backdrop, the company that developed Build. Build is an exciting development in the world of decentralized accelerators, and the hosts discuss how this merger will support Web3 builders by providing a platform that scales with emerging blockchain projects. They then shift gears to talk about CultureFi, debating the cultural and economic impacts of token-driven systems on digital platforms. Wrapping up, they discuss the launch of PvP in the blockchain gaming space and highlight the rising interest in Unichain, a new project focused on scaling decentralized applications. The episode finishes with a fast-paced Lightning Round, covering recent updates and emerging trends in Web3. 0:00 - Intro 0:31 - Start of Podcast 2:16 - Kizzy w/ T H 23:42 - Build w/ Joey 44:12 - CultureFi 53:00 - PVP 55:46 - Unichain Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
Guess NYT Headlines, WIN BIG w/ 0xSmallBrain from TMR News | Ep. 47
Will predicting NYT headlines make you a millionaire? In this episode of Internet Explorers, the guest hosts Cheryl and Nicholas dive into a variety of Web3 topics, starting with an interview with 0xSmallBrain about his project, Tomorrow News, a prediction market that lets users bet on future New York Times headlines. They explore how this platform uses AI to assess prediction accuracy and discuss the potential for expanding prediction markets beyond simple binary outcomes. The conversation shifts to former President Trump’s appearance on Farokh's Rug Radio and the growing involvement of political figures in crypto spaces. They then break down Mr. Beast's employee memo, analyzing his unique approach to content creation, leadership, and how his results-driven culture has helped him dominate YouTube. They also highlight the "Where Are The Fcking Apps"* initiative by Joke Race, a contest showcasing the latest consumer crypto applications, and dive into updates on Farcaster Channels and Doodles' new crypto payment integration. The episode wraps up with a discussion on Vitalik Buterin's Ethereum Story, a film offering an intimate look into the Ethereum co-founder. They finish with thoughts on the SEC's regulatory stance on crypto, followed by a fast-paced Lightning Round, touching on trending topics in the Web3 space. 0:00 - Start of Podcast 0:28 - Start of Episode 1:38 - 0xSmallBrain 17:12 - Trump & Rug Radio 19:51 - The Mr. Beast Memo 25:34 - Where Are The F*cking Apps? 29:25 - Farcaster Channels 35:00 - Doodles 39:25 - Vitalik: An Ethereum Story 42:42 - The SEC Won't Let Us Cook 49:30 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences. Join us at live.seedclub.xyz on Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET Seed Club Twitter: https://x.com/seedclubhq Internet Explorers Twitter: https://x.com/intrntexplorers Apple Music: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/internet-explorers/id1756599282 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6iJk3xZoij7pVhlNbTP9qS Pods.media: https://pods.media/internet-explorers
They Will PAY You to Quit Vaping w/ Reffo from Puffpaw | Ep. 46
Is vaping the future of finance? In this episode of Internet Explorers, Jess and Josh explore Puffpaw's "vape-to-earn" model, discussing its mission to incentivize quitting nicotine through token rewards and the sustainability of its tokenomics. Next, they dive into FriendTech, questioning its future after the team’s decision to halt development, and reflect on the platform’s missed potential. Jess & Josh then cover Drip, a Solana NFT platform helping artists build communities, highlighting its impact on the NFT space. The hosts also touch on the crypto community’s obsession with being “early” and how that dynamic is changing as the industry matures. Wrapping up, they discuss the importance of value-driven applications and emerging trends in Web3 innovation. Jess & Josh finish up the episode with a lightning round, as is tradition! 0:00 - Intro 0:37 - Start of Episode 2:54 - Puffpaw (Vape to Earn) 20:03 - FriendTech (The End?) 29:35 - Drip (Solana NFTs) 44:00 - On Being Early 51:10 - Make Applications Great Again 53:43 - Lightning Round Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer internet experiences.
Ordinals, & User Generated Assets, w/ Jesse Walden of Variant Fund & Hedrin of Ordinal Genesis Ep.41
This week Jess Sloss is joined by guest host Jesse Walden of Varient Fund as well as Hedrin of Ordinal Genesis to discuss the "why bitcoin?" How early expirements in the bitcoin ecosystem are playing out now on ethereum & solana, while bitcoin's ecosystem recieves a a second way of life from the ordinals handbook. Join us next week at live.seedclub.xyz on Friday 10am PT / 1pm ET
