The Tales of Web3 S2 with Andy (Episode 021)
Welcome to THE TALES OF WEB3 - Season Two! In the new season, we will continue to go behind the scenes with the most epic builders and learn about their mindsets, the decisions they made in the past, and what made them who they are today. To make it more fun, we have added the hot takes section for season two, where every guest will be asked to share 1 hot take that is really, REALLY controversial! For S2 Episode 9, we are excited to welcome Andy, co-founder of The Rollup, to the podcast! Study Andy, study The Rollup.
Veda: Building The DeFi Earn Network
Sun Raghupahti is the CoFounder and CEO at Veda Labs. In this episode, we dive into how Veda is building the DeFi Earn Network to transform passive yield generation into a simple, secure, and accessible experience. Learn how Veda is breaking down DeFi’s complexities, leading in a new frontier of yield curation and tokenization, and unlocking opportunities across onchain ecosystems. We’ll also explore what it takes to bring DeFi to the masses, the opportunity in interoperability, and why vaults are key to mass adoption. ------ 🔗 Essential Show Links 🔗 ► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz ► Youtube: https://youtube.com/@DeFiDad ► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod ► Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/edgepodspotify ► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/edge_pod ► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad ► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap ► Learn about DeFi and Web3: http://defidad.com/ ------ The Edge Podcast Sponsor Resources ☀️ SUMMER.FI | THE BEST PLACE TO BORROW AND EARN IN DEFI https://summer.fi/?utm_source=DeFidad ♦️ REDSTONE ORACLES | THE FASTEST GROWING ORACLE FOR DEFI https://redstone.finance/ 🧙♂️ MERLIN CHAIN | THE RISE OF BITCOIN'S LARGEST LAYER 2 https://merlinchain.io/ 🧪 MANTLE | START YOUR RESTAKING JOURNEY TODAY WITH CMETH https://meth.mantle.xyz/restake 🐡 PUFFER FINANCE | A LEADING INNOVATOR IN LIQUID RESTAKING, BASED ROLLUPS, AND AVS'S https://puffer.fi/ ------ Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 4:14 - What led to building Veda? 6:34 - What is Veda’s mission? 7:04 - Why are vaults and curation so crucial for DeFi? 9:22 - Veda’s breakout moment with ether.fi 14:16 - How will Veda protocol move closer to the end-user? 17:21 - Why do protocols turn to Veda? 21:46 - Which networks does Veda support? 22:57 - Mantle mid-roll 23:38 - What else do we need to take DeFi mainstream? 25:59 - How big can BTC restaking get? 28:21 - Puffer Finance mid-roll 29:06 - Thoughts on AI merging with DeFi products 31:45 - The role of modularity in Veda 34:32 - The opportunity with interoperability 36:12 - Closing ------ 🔗 Guest Links 🔗 ► Veda Website: https://veda.tech/ ► Veda on X/Twitter: https://x.com/veda_labs ► Sun on X/Twitter: https://x.com/sunandr_ ------ If you're a DeFi/Web3 builder, contact our team at: https://fourthrevolution.capital/ All opinions expressed by hosts and podcast guests are solely their own opinions and not necessarily those of Fourth Revolution Capital. Podcast guests and 4RC may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad is invested in Veda Labs. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Do your own research. This is not a recommendation or endorsement to buy any token(s) related to any platform(s) discussed.
Product Design & User Acquisition
In this episode of the Optimism Show, host Kris Gligoroski interviews Tani, a product developer and founder of Intelligent, a platform for tracking social metrics on Farcaster. They discuss the evolution of blockchain, the importance of user experience in product design, and the balance between utility and beauty in creating successful products. Tani shares insights on whether to bootstrap or seek funding for blockchain startups, emphasizing the need to understand the target audience and simplify the user journey. Find the key points discussed in this episode on: insights.optimism.show Where to find Kris: Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/thekris LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/thekrispartner Where to find Tani: Farcaster: https://warpcast.com/tanishq In this episode we cover: (00:00) Tani’s journey from Web2 to Web3 and building blockchain products (02:20) Challenges in simplifying blockchain user experiences for mass adoption (06:00) How Intelligent aggregates decentralized social graphs for Web3 ecosystems (09:30) Importance of balancing beauty and utility in product design (15:10) Bootstrapping vs. raising funds: When should founders seek investment? (22:00) How blockchain companies can focus on non-crypto users for growth (27:30) The importance of cross-functional teams in product design (34:20) Practical strategies for founders to drive user adoption in blockchain projects For inquiries about sponsorships, collaboration, and growth consulting: pod@optimism.show
Meet the FOCGER: Dith, Pirate Nation
In this Meet the FOCGERS episode, Dith, head of business development at Proof of Play, dives deep into the go-to-market approach that has fueled Pirate Nation's growth, cementing it as the top fully onchain game. With a background as a startup founder and go-to-market head at Stripe, Dith brought a savvy GTM perspective to Pirate Nation. Dith’s strategic insights, from community-focused flywheels to viral, collaborative mints, illustrate how Proof of Play is not only building Pirate Nation but defining go-to-market playbooks in Web3 games. As the game heads into a new season, DITH emphasizes that Pirate Nation is just getting started, with the bar continuously rising for what it means to be a part of the game’s community.
How Abstract Plans to Dominate Consumer Crypto
Welcome to back to the live studio podcasts from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for a conversation with Luca from Abstract with a focus on building the next era of consumer-friendly blockchain experiences. As you know, we have been quite bullish on chains which are usecase-specific with a target market and segment of focus. Abstract is designed to prioritize user experience, aiming to be the leading chain that truly puts consumer needs at the forefront. As early supporters of Pudgy Penguins and Luca, we don't think there's many better teams positioned to carve a blue ocean in this market. Luca's vision includes creating what he calls a “Crypto Disneyland” – a place where onchain experiences enable engaging, fun, and user-friendly applications for the everyday person. It’s a bold shift in approach, one that moves away from the typical DeFi-centric models. At the heart of Abstract’s strategy is a “consumer portal” that unifies applications, providing a seamless journey for users from discovery to interaction. This streamlined approach is all about removing the barriers that typically cause high user drop-off rates in crypto, making it easy for anyone to navigate from one application to another. We also discussed their collaboration with Eigenlayer, specifically for EigenDA. Luca mentioned he wants Abstract to focus on user-facing distribution while leaving the backend infrastructure needs to Eigenlayer’s infra stack. They will also utilize ZK Sync's elastic chain interoperability infra. As Abstract gears up for its mainnet launch, Luca envisions a crypto ecosystem focused on everyday people is the next logical step to bring meaningful, mainstream adoption to the space. Enjoy. 𝗘𝗶𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗟𝗮𝘆𝗲𝗿 𝗨𝗻𝗹𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝗔𝗹𝘁𝗟𝗮𝘆𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗣𝗼𝗹𝘆𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝗔𝗹𝘁𝗟𝗮𝘆𝗲𝗿 is an open and decentralized protocol that accelerates the launch of native and restaked rollups as well as AVSs. Our flagship product ‘restaked rollups’ has been an industry disruptor, unlocking the true value of rollups with enhanced security, decentralization, fast finality, and interoperability. AltLayer also recently launched the market’s first AVS-as-a-Service platform called “Wizard”- which templatizes AVS tools for convenience, hyper-accelerating their adoption and fast-tracking scalability for Web3. Follow AltLayer's Twitter: https://twitter.com/alt_layer and Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/altlayer 𝗣𝗼𝗹𝘆𝗺𝗲𝗿 is the first real-time interoperability solution that combines message passing and state streaming into an infinitely scalable network layer for the upcoming appchain meta. It can scale alongside L2 block times and leverage the security guarantees of connected rollups while offering re-org protection. Check it out here: https://www.polymerlabs.org/ 00:45 Introduction 03:36 Branding Lessons from Apple 06:36 Consumer-Centric Chains 09:36 The Role of Fun in Crypto Adoption 12:45 Building a Better UX 15:49 The Importance of User Retention 18:47 Luca’s Vision For Crypto’s Consumer Era 21:46 Road To Mainnet Abstract Website: https://abs.xyz/ Abstract Socials: https://x.com/AbstractChain Luca Netz Socials: https://x.com/LucaNetz 𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘆𝗽𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀: Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBh The Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl . . . 𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴. #EigenLayer #AbstractChain #zkSync