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2025-06-10
The Great Crypto Debate: Capitalists vs. Leftists | Josh Davila, Ron Turetzky
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Hersh and Dawufi explore the intersection of cryptocurrency and leftist politics with guests Ron and Josh. The conversation delves into how blockchain technology can support progressive movements, with Josh sharing his path into crypto through debt struggles and his work on Blockchain Socialist and the book Blockchain Radicals. Ron offers insights on decentralized governance and collective ownership, drawing from his experiences in communal living. The episode highlights projects like BreadChain, which use DeFi to fund political initiatives, and examines the challenges of democratic governance in decentralized systems. Themes of fully automated luxury communism and the role of technology in building a more equitable society round out the discussion.

Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
04:51 - Crypto and Left-Wing Politics: A Convergence
12:39 - Democracy, Capitalism, and Blockchain
21:39 - Alternative Funding: Sustainable Investment Models
26:25 - Crypto Cooperatives and Collective Principles
28:19 - Post-Capitalism via Cooperative Frameworks
29:34 - BreadChain’s Impact on Crypto Cooperatives
30:09 - Go-To-Market Strategies for Cooperative Ventures
37:15 - Governance in Crypto: Minimalism and Cooperation
42:39 - Technology Meets Collectivism
47:01 - Human Nature: Wealth vs. Community Balance
52:36 - Capitalism, Innovation, and Healthcare: A Debate
57:02 - Wealth Production and Capitalism’s Complexities
01:01:58 - ZKTLS: Data Ownership and Economic Potential
01:08:56 - Final Thoughts and Future Dialogues

Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

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